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2 piece Chapman rods

Post by Totman » Sat May 27, 2017 2:33 pm

I own 4 Chapman split cane rods as follows, mk8 quinet
Peter Stone ledger strike , The Carp,and finally Dennis Pye sp pike rod all 2 piece,I have noticed that there are two piece and three piece versions of the above rods, 3 piece having a detachable handle, could any one please throw some light on the subject, and which came first 2 piece or 3 thanks in advance . Totman (John) :idea:

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Re: 2 piece Chapman rods

Post by Ljm183 » Sat May 27, 2017 3:53 pm

Cant help with which came 1st, ... and iv not heard of the Quinnette Mk8 with separate handle. :Confused:

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Re: 2 piece Chapman rods

Post by Shed_Monkey » Sat May 27, 2017 8:54 pm

Reading between the lines on the website I think the 2pc versions came first.

As a business Chapmans were very smart cookies when it came to optimising their production...

The 550 and 600 share the same butt section and butt ferrule size meaning both the butts and the handles were harmonised.

The Ledgerstrike 2 piece blank was also the blank used for the FJ Taylor roach rod - simply by adding a removable handle

The Amwell, Amwell SP and Shelford were all the same blank.

Lean manufacturing ahead of its time.

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Re: 2 piece Chapman rods

Post by Wallys-Cast » Sat May 27, 2017 9:06 pm

I think the separate handle versions were simply to make the rods easier to transport, certainly more car door friendly in those days of small cars and no hatchbacks. I think they feel better in action too.

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Re: 2 piece Chapman rods

Post by Shed_Monkey » Sat May 27, 2017 9:36 pm

Wallys-Cast wrote:
Sat May 27, 2017 9:06 pm
I think the separate handle versions were simply to make the rods easier to transport, certainly more car door friendly in those days of small cars and no hatchbacks. I think they feel better in action too.

Wal.
This was one of the thingsI loved about my 500 as a kid - it was just the right size to tie to my crossbar before I cycled off to the Lea each weekend in search of the monster perch of my dreams.

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Re: 2 piece Chapman rods

Post by Totman » Sun May 28, 2017 2:19 pm

Used to fish the lea at Broxbourne would walk from station to the point where it met kings Weir 50 years ago happy days .

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Re: 2 piece Chapman rods

Post by Totman » Sun May 28, 2017 2:28 pm

Is the rod called The Carp a500!!!

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Re: 2 piece Chapman rods

Post by Paul F » Sun May 28, 2017 2:53 pm

Totman wrote:
Sun May 28, 2017 2:28 pm
Is the rod called The Carp a500!!!
No the 550 is the MKIV Carp

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Re: 2 piece Chapman rods

Post by Olly » Sun May 28, 2017 3:24 pm

List of rods on their website:-
Chapman rods from 1950.
2 Piece Bottom Rods.

The “Chapman 500” 10′ 2 piece Avon style rod 1960.
The “Chapman 550 ” 10′ 3 piece Carp rod 1960 -1970
The “Chapman Dennis Pye 700 10′ 3 piece Pike Rod 1960 – 1970
The “Peter Stone 600 ” 10′ 3 piece Ledger rod 1965 1970
The MkIV Avon or light Carp rod 1 lbs T.C.
The MkIV Carp rod 1-1/2 lbs T.C.
The “Peter Stone Ledgerstrike 10′ 2 piece Ledger rod

So no the "Carp" rod is a separate rod to either the 500 Avon style rod or the 550 Carp rod.

Nothing about Quintette range which may have not been mass produced!

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Re: 2 piece Chapman rods

Post by Ljm183 » Sun May 28, 2017 5:32 pm

Olly wrote:
Sun May 28, 2017 3:24 pm
List of rods on their website:-
Chapman rods from 1950.
2 Piece Bottom Rods.

The “Chapman 500” 10′ 2 piece Avon style rod 1960.
The “Chapman 550 ” 10′ 3 piece Carp rod 1960 -1970
The “Chapman Dennis Pye 700 10′ 3 piece Pike Rod 1960 – 1970
The “Peter Stone 600 ” 10′ 3 piece Ledger rod 1965 1970
The MkIV Avon or light Carp rod 1 lbs T.C.
The MkIV Carp rod 1-1/2 lbs T.C.
The “Peter Stone Ledgerstrike 10′ 2 piece Ledger rod

So no the "Carp" rod is a separate rod to either the 500 Avon style rod or the 550 Carp rod.



Nothing about Quintette range which may have not been mass produced!
Olly if you read at the bottom of the 550 details it say,s

" 1960 Catalogue description. This rod has the precise action and test curve of a standard Carp, but is supplied in two 3’ 11” lengths with detachable handle.

Also Chapman,s only made 50 ish. Quinnette Mk8 rods


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