hardy cane carp rod

The Hardy Rods forum.
Post Reply
User avatar
Torridge Cane
Ruffe
Posts: 66
Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:49 pm

hardy cane carp rod

Post by Torridge Cane » Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:07 pm

Hello
l know Hardy made the Richard Walker cane carp rod in 1969 only
but does anyone know how many they made
are they rare ,l can't find much on them ,
is it true that Richard Walker fell out with B.James ,then moved over to Hardys , with Fred J.Taylor ,and others, giving advice to the company
or is that all wrong .......
I would love to know, as l have just pick one up

User avatar
Beresford
Zander
Posts: 3859
Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:26 pm

Re: hardy cane carp rod

Post by Beresford » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:23 pm

I think it's thought they made about 200 each of the Carp and Avon rods. They also made a carp rod in 1954 that is finished differently and is probably a different taper. They are quite rare but do come up for sale from time to time. They are different to the B. James MkIV. However, I've been told by one of the UK's leading rod builders that the cane is not as good as you would hope for from Hardy and prone to taking a set. I've seen about half a dozen of the Avon rods and they have all had a set but the carp rod I came close to buying was very straight. It's a nice lissom rod and I will probably have a replica made at some point as I think it would make an excellent stalking rod.
The Split Cane Splinter Group

User avatar
AshbyCut
Honorary Vice President
Posts: 9351
Joined: Sun May 06, 2012 1:27 am
Location: North Warwickshire
Contact:

Re: hardy cane carp rod

Post by AshbyCut » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:47 pm

My 'Avon' is very straight !!! Wal seemed to like it when he borrowed it back in March !!! The only time it wasn't straight was when he'd hooked into one !!!

Image
"Beside the water I discovered (or maybe rediscovered) the quiet. The sort of quiet that allows one to be woven into the tapestry of nature instead of merely standing next to it." Estaban.

http://www.AshbyCut.com

User avatar
Torridge Cane
Ruffe
Posts: 66
Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:49 pm

Re: hardy cane carp rod

Post by Torridge Cane » Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:55 am

the rod is a work of art , straight ,and beautifully finished ,in the original bag with the Hardy label ,
the chap who had it before me, paid £35 for it !!!!
i've only ever seen 2 of these carp rods before , both lovely ,one the owner would never part with,not that l'd ask !
the other was in the Creel in Aldershot in 1979 [ ,proper tackle shop ! Always had cane in the back of the shop,] and l couldn't afford it then , from then on always wanted one .
The Avon ,also a beautiful rod ,seem to be easier to find , but the last 2 had huge price tags £1000 + is this correct ? [dealers]
is it the same for the carp rod , if so , l have a bargain ,a first for me !

User avatar
Beresford
Zander
Posts: 3859
Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:26 pm

Re: hardy cane carp rod

Post by Beresford » Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:06 am

The Avon seems to come up for sale more often – perhaps they made more of them or folks like the Carp so much they want to hang onto them. Dealers tend to be asking £900 – £1200 for the Avon. The late 60's Carp varies greatly in price. I looked at one privately for £400. I've seen them with dealers for around £750 but that was some years ago.
The Split Cane Splinter Group

User avatar
Deaf Cat
Rudd
Posts: 396
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:59 pm
Location: Historic Rochester, Kent

Re: hardy cane carp rod

Post by Deaf Cat » Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:54 pm

Angling Auctions April 2017
https://sportdocbox.com/Fly_Fishing/777 ... items.html
Lot 244
A very rare Hardy “Carp” 2 piece cane carp rod,
10’, crimson silk wraps, gold inter-whippings, sliding alloy reel fittings, suction joint, excellent condition and a very rarely seen model made 1955/6 only, in bag
£350-550
Duffer - The man without skill of hand, without good eyesight and no longer young - the man who really ought to fish!
(H.M. Bateman / R.D. Peck)

User avatar
Torridge Cane
Ruffe
Posts: 66
Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:49 pm

Re: hardy cane carp rod

Post by Torridge Cane » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:12 pm

Did Hardy get the idea from Richard Walker for that rod
did he have any input in it's making
or did Hardy just decide to make one, because at that time didn't B.James ask him if they could make his carp rod.
The one l have is the 1969 version that Walker had a say in , l believe ,could be wrong ,has his name on it,
Thanks for that Deaf Cat

User avatar
Torridge Cane
Ruffe
Posts: 66
Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:49 pm

Re: hardy cane carp rod

Post by Torridge Cane » Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:57 am

Image
this is the rod ..brilliant ,took this fish off the top ,this afternoon, on a bit of cheese sandwich , straight into a massive weed bed ,just pull her out,with 2 fishermen telling me it's impossible, and cane rods can't do that , there just nice too stick on the wall !!!! one of them really said that,nice to proof them wrong ....
a superb rod ,and always been a mitchell fan , but the cardinal takes some beating ,

User avatar
Dokterhoo
Gudgeon
Posts: 89
Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:24 pm

Re: hardy cane carp rod

Post by Dokterhoo » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:44 pm

Deaf Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:54 pm
Angling Auctions April 2017
https://sportdocbox.com/Fly_Fishing/777 ... items.html
Lot 244
A very rare Hardy “Carp” 2 piece cane carp rod,
10’, crimson silk wraps, gold inter-whippings, sliding alloy reel fittings, suction joint, excellent condition and a very rarely seen model made 1955/6 only, in bag
£350-550
Unfortunately the rod did not sell at this price so presumably did not meet it's reserve at around the £350 mark.

Dok

User avatar
Torridge Cane
Ruffe
Posts: 66
Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:49 pm

Re: hardy cane carp rod

Post by Torridge Cane » Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:47 am

thank you all, for the information
Jon

Post Reply

Return to “Hardy Cane Rods”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests