12 foot avon style rod?

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12 foot avon style rod?

Post by Kevanf1 » Fri May 31, 2013 12:35 pm

Having just missed out on the very nice 12 foot avon style rod that Lee was selling on eBay :( does anybody know of a manufacturer who made such a rod please? There are plenty of 10 and 11 foot cane avon rods out there but I just prefer to use a 12 foot rod. Perhaps somebody has the taper specifications for a 12 foot avon or avon style rod? Again, I would prefer this to be fully built or split cane not part whole and part split. A slight difference to the avon style in a stiffer butt (ala Chapman's 500/550) would be fine.

Any ideas please?
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Re: 12 foot avon style rod?

Post by Nobby » Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:04 am

You might consider the ridiculously under-rated Modern Arms 'Test' at 12 feet. A bit heavy to hold all day, though I have done chasing margin tench, they are a little thicker in the butt than other rods and have plenty of power for larger fish. It's a straight taper and starts off at the usual tip ring size, but goes to a slightly thicker than usual cane at the handle.

This gives it a progressive action, a powerful butt and the length, at 12 feet, to cast some distance.

Modern Arms, or Marco as they later called themselves, were one of the first firms to invest in milling machines, probably about the time they moved from the Elephant and Castle to Bromley on the London border, technically in Kent.


These milling machines mean the cane sections are perfect and I've never seen a glue line on a Marco. Neither is the cane poor quality, on the contrary I've yet to see a Marco take a set, unless horribly ill-cared for.

For some inexplicable reason Marco rods don't command a high price and they often sell quite cheaply on eBay.



Do be aware though....a 12 foot cane rod is not a light thing and you'll want a pair of rod rests :Wink:

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Re: 12 foot avon style rod?

Post by Woodytia » Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:38 pm

I'd agree about Marco rods, I had a Medway Deluxe, I sold it on as I got hold of a Chapmans Hunter, it is a quality rod though. Dawsons of Bromley made some 12ft versions of the Sabina or Sabrina, I've got one of these awaiting restoration, but it would be worthy of consideration.

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Re: 12 foot avon style rod?

Post by RightCharlie » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:53 am

Andrew Davis has a new 'The Nottingham Style - Roach Rod' not quite 12 foot at 11' 9" but hollow built so lighter than a full built cane.

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Re: 12 foot avon style rod?

Post by Harry » Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:56 pm

I have a 12' Test and can readily echo Nobby's words... it is a bit of a beast... the tip section is quite soft but the middle and butt are where the power lies. And has been said, they are heavy to hold... more for ledgering rather than float work... although they will trot a float, they are a bit slow on the strike due to the softer tip and they are not for the weak of arm to float fish all day with.... a good solid rod :Hat:
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Re: 12 foot avon style rod?

Post by Penninelad » Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:11 pm

I would agree.Marco are rods are first class in every way.I use a 12' and 10'6" Test and another Marco Avon style rod which has no model name on it.They can handle large chub and barbel but the tips are very sensitive enough to deal with smaller species.They can still be picked up at reasonable prices.
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Re: 12 foot avon style rod?

Post by Harry » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:36 pm

Here is my Test in action with some smaller carp at a local commercial
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and the culprit...!
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The rod was rebuilt by Steve Boncey of this parish... it was an auction site purchase of £35 ish pounds and was just about usable when I got it.... one quality rebuild later and it got christened on the Wye with some hard fighting Chub on the Red Lion stretch above the bridge... :Thumb: :Hat:

addendum... a pic of the butt section and transfers...
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Re: 12 foot avon style rod?

Post by Shed_Monkey » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:09 pm

Nobby wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:04 am
These milling machines mean the cane sections are perfect and I've never seen a glue line on a Marco.
Just as a general point of interest I have read that one of the tricks of the trade when milling strips is to mill the angles slighly oversized to make sure that there are no glue lines. Oversized angles mean that the outer apexes of the strips will always meet up and the slight gap that results is on the inner surfaces of the rod and provides space for glue to move into. Anywhere up to 62° is what I have seen quoted.

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Re: 12 foot avon style rod?

Post by Nobby » Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:16 pm

I had wondered about that but wouldn't it be an utter nightmare to glue up true? Like holding a bag of snakes.....

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Re: 12 foot avon style rod?

Post by Ljm183 » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:36 pm

Has anyone noticed that the original post is 4 years old ?

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