What's this method called?

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What's this method called?

Post by MaggotDrowner » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:00 pm

I was chatting with someone on the bank about having trouble float fishing a swim with quite a slope on it. He described something a bit like this but didn't know the name of it.


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This is in a still water for carp and other larger fish, with big baits like spam.


I don't think it's stret pegging because that is done in moving water with a bow in the line, like this:
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Re: What's this method called?

Post by Santiago » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:08 pm

Laying on ! Very good when rivers flow just a tad quick for trotting.
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Re: What's this method called?

Post by MaggotDrowner » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:12 pm

I thought laying on was just a general term for having some line on the bottom, even if it's just a few centimeters. So normal waggler fishing could be called laying on too?
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Re: What's this method called?

Post by Santiago » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:21 pm

Laying on was covered a few days ago MD. You are essentially right but the float is set quite a bit over depth.
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Re: What's this method called?

Post by Snape » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:22 pm

It you fish over depth with all the shot on the bottom then surely the float will lift when the bait is picked up so it's a form of the lift method (which I guess is a form of laying on).
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Re: What's this method called?

Post by Bjp » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:23 pm

thats exactly how i have been trying to catch the carp in the local pond and failing i might add :surrender:



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Re: What's this method called?

Post by Northern Eel » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:25 pm

the way I float fish in deep water (deeper than the length of the rod) where its difficult to cast a float or theres an uneven bottom is to use
a float like this (see below), a self cocker with a swivel style wide eye, attach 2 BB to the line about 4-6 inches from the hook (but make sure the distance between the shot & hook is not longer than the float itself)
I then tie a piece of line to the mainline as a stopknot (overdepth)
The float slides freely on the line, so its easy to cast as it sits against the BB's when casting, once you have cast out, the BB's sink straight down the bottom (anchoring the bait) & the float slides up & cocks, you then tighten the line & set the float.

Its basically a sliding float setup that I use for Tench fishing
(the floats are middy carp floats, you can remove the tip & fit a starlight into them for night fishing)
Its a simple setup, that allows you to cast a long way due to the weight of the float & means you can move about & fish different areas of the swim without having to adjust the float depth each time.


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Re: What's this method called?

Post by MaggotDrowner » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:28 pm

Snape wrote:It you fish over depth with all the shot on the bottom then surely the float will lift when the bait is picked up so it's a form of the lift method (which I guess is a form of laying on).
Because of the larger distance between the shot and the bait (doesn't the lift call for it to be very close?) I think the fish is likely to start moving off before the shot is lifted and therefore the float will go under? That's how the chap described bites anyway.

I'll be giving it a try in a few days hopefully.
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Re: What's this method called?

Post by Barbulus » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:32 pm

Snape...I agree...."laying on"......the float lifts whenever I fish that way...

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Re: What's this method called?

Post by Necarper » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:33 pm

I've always called this simply 'float ledger', get a lift or a pull under if the fish runs. Been using this method for carp and tench and called it that for some 40 years.

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