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Close in ledgering

Post by SharkBoy » Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:32 pm

advise please ... A quite corner of my lake which takes a very easy underarm chuck of maybe 10 to 15 feet ..3 feet of water with probably 2 inches of leaf silt .. How would you suggest to fish it ? My problem is I am using an 1.5 oz lead with a 6 inch rig but I think that when the lead drops the bait is to close to the lead and makes a take more difficult to achieve ... Using boilies and the new wafters .. Could those foam nuggets that dissolve be the way to go so the bait drops slower than the lead? Any ideas guys

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Re: Close in ledgering

Post by Olly » Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:43 pm

A helicopter rig ( or a zigrig) could help as would a paternoster rig. The disolvable foam does work well but 6in hook-length does not give you much leeway! Why use 1.5oz for an underarm lob? A couple of swan shot - even 1 - would go that far. Float fishing could also work well.

The heavier weight implies that you are using a bolt type rig which may not be required depending upon how wary the fish are.

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Re: Close in ledgering

Post by SharkBoy » Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:49 pm

Thanks food for thought ... Will try the swan shot first cheers

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Re: Close in ledgering

Post by Olly » Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:07 pm

I use the foam nuggets to protect the hook point mostly in weedy water.

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Re: Close in ledgering

Post by Harry » Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:12 pm

I used a single swanshot to get the casting weight and I've now recently started using plasticine tis cheaper and you can flatten out the weight so it doesn't sink into the silt too much :Thumb:
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Re: Close in ledgering

Post by Olly » Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:23 pm

I have used Plasticine on many occasions - but always worry about the smell! Soaking in sweetcorn juice could help?

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Re: Close in ledgering

Post by Marc » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:20 am

I refuse to use PVA or any dissolvable products when fishing, I can't imagine it's great for fish or the water, especially heavily fished waters where modern rigs seem to call more and more for it. Another vote for plasticine, recommended by Shaun Harrison who knows his way around a fish. Very versatile, being able to alter the shape and weight is useful. The newplast stuff has minimal smell, well to is maybe not to fish, and you can get a big place in loads of colours for very little outlay.
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Re: Close in ledgering

Post by SharkBoy » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:26 am

Cheers

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Re: Close in ledgering

Post by Dave Burr » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:26 am

Just use a slightly longer hooklength in silt. 10-14" is usually about right. If your lead does sink, the hook will stay clear and the sunken lead will assist in setting the hook when you get a pick-up. (But don't tell any of the staunch brigade that I said that :Scared: ) I do not care for chod rigs but some swear by them.

Don't forget to add a knob of plasticine above your lead to act as a back-lead. In shallow water, having everything nailed to the bottom will greatly increase your chances.

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Re: Close in ledgering

Post by PershoreHarrier » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:57 am

Gosh - I must be old as I have never heard of half of these set ups. However, I used to regularly fish a small still water with Carp running to 30lbs and casting was not much more than 20 feet. I opted for free-lining with either luncheon meat or dunked bread flake and the MkIV rod would underarm cast that with ease. Let the bait sink and allow the line to sink and lie across the bottom emerging from the water just in front of the rod tip. Rod set at an angle to the water in two rod rests, bale arm open on the Mitchell 300 and a card or silver paper indicator on the line sitting on the ground between the reel and the butt ring. It accounted for a large number of very fine fish indeed. Watch for line movement where it enters the water and of course the card indicator hitting the butt ring. Later on I used an optonic as well as concentrating on the indicator was tiring to say the least.

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