Ferruleless cane rod.

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Ferruleless cane rod.

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There was a debate not so long ago about ferruleless rods and in particular the rod manufacturers description of ferruleless. This unmarked cane rod is exactly as described, ferruleless. All connections are cane to cane with just the bottom section housing a metal reinforcing ring at the female end. It is 12’ 6” over 3 unequal parts with Low Bells Life rings, alloy reel fittings and is very light. Whoever built it certainly knew what they were doing.
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Lovely looking rod. Home made would you say?
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I think if memory serves, there is a description in the book by Lawton Moss about building a rod of this construction, for the home builder
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It does have a lot of home made qualities about it.
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Fredline wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:09 pm It does have a lot of home made qualities about it.
I am absolutely certain that it was not made by my father! :Hat:
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The centre section of your rod is almost certainly broken as it should be the same length as the butt section. The male part of the joint would be slightly tapered and unvarnished to give a smooth but close fitting joint similar to the one on the tip joint.

These joints are the same as those used in cane Roach poles and I think makers such as Sowerbutts would be the same people originally making these rods.

I have two which were very kindly donated to to me by Bob Brookes, one is a three section and 12ft long, made by W H Norris of Leamington Spa and the other is 13ft long and three sections, made by Ashcrofts of Wigan. Both makers of fine roach poles.

I have also seen a two piece 12ft by W A Allcock with the same ferruleless construction. It was a really light, fast action rod and if anybody has one they wish to sell I would be very interested.

They are generally constructed from Spanish reed or bored out whole cane with built cane tips but there was one for sale on ebay with a spliced in hollow glass tip which looked totally original so the ferruleless joint must have still been in use.


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That's a very interesting ferruless rod .
I have a 5 piece ferruless pole but it is very rough and does seem home made.

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I made quite a few bamboo ferrule rods at one time ,they were quite popular. Not difficult to do once you get used to the set up .
Interesting as this is an older rod.

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Wallys-Cast wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:22 am The centre section of your rod is almost certainly broken as it should be the same length as the butt section. The male part of the joint would be slightly tapered and unvarnished to give a smooth but close fitting joint similar to the one on the tip joint.

These joints are the same as those used in cane Roach poles and I think makers such as Sowerbutts would be the same people originally making these rods.

I have two which were very kindly donated to to me by Bob Brookes, one is a three section and 12ft long, made by W H Norris of Leamington Spa and the other is 13ft long and three sections, made by Ashcrofts of Wigan. Both makers of fine roach poles.

I have also seen a two piece 12ft by W A Allcock with the same ferruleless construction. It was a really light, fast action rod and if anybody has one they wish to sell I would be very interested.

They are generally constructed from Spanish reed or bored out whole cane with built cane tips but there was one for sale on ebay with a spliced in hollow glass tip which looked totally original so the ferruleless joint must have still been in use.


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Having checked it out closer Wal, you are probably right.It would have originally been 14' and as you say the middle section was broken. It has been shortened until it produced a snug fit.
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Wal, :Hat:
Just one point on your post. I never saw a roach pole ever used in the Leamington Spa area and in all my time spent in Knocker Norris's workshop I never saw one being made or repaired.

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