Allcocks of Redditch - the other one!
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Allcocks of Redditch - the other one!
Right chaps its time to put your thinking caps on. We are all lovers and admirers of the great S. Allcocks company - but what about the other one: W. A. Allcocks and sons? So little seems to be known about this maker - and it seems such a shame: I think they suffer from sharing the same name! I frequently get offered rods by "Allcocks" and have to admit to being a little disappointed if they turn out to be by WA rather than S: and yet they are good, well made rods on the whole. I've trawled through most of the books I own and can't find anything of interest on the company - most simply ignoring its existence. My thoughts so far: they only made rods (I've not come across a reel made by or retailed by them), I've heard it said that they have no connection to the more famous Allcocks (though what this is based on I don't know - perhaps the Polycarp had a bit on the side? Allcock still seems a fairly common name in the region so perhaps a more distant relative) and they appear to have lasted into the hollow glass era (I'm pretty sure I've seen a HG rod by them sometime in the past).
So over to you all - lets hear it for the "other Allcocks": any information gratefully received!
ATB
Jim
So over to you all - lets hear it for the "other Allcocks": any information gratefully received!
ATB
Jim
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Re: Allcocks of Redditch - the other one!
I've never been able to find out a thing about them, Jim.
I'd guess they are related to Allcocks in some way, the tackle manufacturer's families seem to have married one anothers chidren quite a bit, but there's nothing I can find to suggest it.
That said, DNA indicates were are ALL descended from 7 women in Europe, so I suppose it just depends upon how far you go back in time.......
There's one rod they did...was it a Viking?...that people seem to think of as a good barbel rod.
I discovered recently that there's a successful match angler called Aspindale and he's from Astwood Bank, too!
I'd guess they are related to Allcocks in some way, the tackle manufacturer's families seem to have married one anothers chidren quite a bit, but there's nothing I can find to suggest it.
That said, DNA indicates were are ALL descended from 7 women in Europe, so I suppose it just depends upon how far you go back in time.......
There's one rod they did...was it a Viking?...that people seem to think of as a good barbel rod.
I discovered recently that there's a successful match angler called Aspindale and he's from Astwood Bank, too!
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Re: Allcocks of Redditch - the other one!
It was the Adonis Nobby. A good light barbel rod, but not the best for stopping doubles reaching sanctuary
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D'oh! That's the one....Ta, Sean.
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I have a witham wizard by w a allcocks two sections split cane and a separate cork handle. A very nice rod until I stood on it and broke it
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Excellent - so now we have 2 models by the company: the Witham Wizard (interesting to note handle arrangement) and Adonis (is this all slit cane too Sean?).
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Re: Allcocks of Redditch - the other one!
I'll post some pictures later
Chance is always powerful. Let your hook be always cast; in the pool where you least expect it, there will be a fish
Re: Allcocks of Redditch - the other one!
Yes, the Adonis was all split cane - this is what the Mistral (John Olliff Cooper) website had to say about it:
W.A. Allcock 1960c Adonis 11’0” /3 All split cane. An excellent example of this well-respected barbel taper. Restored to better than new. Agate butt and tip, FOB inters. Fine red silk. £375
Probably where its reputation as a barbel rod originated from!
And here's a third to add to the collection - The Prince:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/W-A-ALLCOCK-S ... 6005441269
And a fourth (un-named) from Mullocks:
A W.A Allcock of Redditch 12' 3 piece Spanish reed float rod with split cane tip, factory black stained, whipped red, tipped yellow
W.A. Allcock 1960c Adonis 11’0” /3 All split cane. An excellent example of this well-respected barbel taper. Restored to better than new. Agate butt and tip, FOB inters. Fine red silk. £375
Probably where its reputation as a barbel rod originated from!
And here's a third to add to the collection - The Prince:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/W-A-ALLCOCK-S ... 6005441269
And a fourth (un-named) from Mullocks:
A W.A Allcock of Redditch 12' 3 piece Spanish reed float rod with split cane tip, factory black stained, whipped red, tipped yellow
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And here's a fibreglass example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-W-A-All ... 7675.l2557
The strange thing is, the usually-reliable Directory of British Phone Books I have access to via "Ancestry" seems to have no record of a W A Allcock in Redditch! I'll keep digging...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-W-A-All ... 7675.l2557
The strange thing is, the usually-reliable Directory of British Phone Books I have access to via "Ancestry" seems to have no record of a W A Allcock in Redditch! I'll keep digging...
Re: Allcocks of Redditch - the other one!
...And not forgetting their two-piece fly rod!
http://www.artfact.com/auction-lot/a-tw ... 70nnwzd3ez
http://www.artfact.com/auction-lot/a-tw ... 70nnwzd3ez