Black Seal on eBay.

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Re: Black Seal on eBay.

Post by AshbyCut » Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:56 pm

MGs wrote:I have seen a 12' unrestored Black Seal at one of our local markets. Looked and felt like a bit of a beast, 3 section split cane
That's 60's Sheffield engineering for you, Sir ! :Wink:
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Re: Black Seal on eBay.

Post by MGs » Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:06 pm

Looking at the ringing, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a Salmon rod. it would go some way to explaining what it is doing in this part of the world
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Re: Black Seal on eBay.

Post by Santiago » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:38 pm

What a surprise, I won it and it will fit nicely into my split cane spinning rod collection. Needs restoring a tad but for that price I think my punt paid off.

Also bagged a mystery 91/2' pike rod which I'm not too sure about!! Will post details tomorrow for possible ID, but the lenght will suit pikeing from my boat.
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Re: Black Seal on eBay.

Post by MaggotDrowner » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:40 pm

AshbyCut wrote: As for the glass rod, it's a gift ... I'll PM you.
A very kind gesture, AC. :cheers: I'll read the PM shortly. :)
JohnL wrote:Hi MD,
The Black Seal label went on a variety of rods made by Mordex, spin, fly, coarse, I have never seen one with a model labelled. The one you have is probably between 1 1/4 lb and 1 1/2 lb test curve - I have two others the same and they are my main "big fish" rods. Remember though the rods were not made in test curves in those days and you also have to take account of the action, in this case parabolic which is what makes them most suitable for tench, carp, barbel etc.
I am quite surprised by the levels of power you suggest. I don't doubt it for a minute though. I assumed they would fall below the mkIV, but your figures would put a Black Seal the same or just below a mkIV at 1 1/2 LB. Perhaps I should look for something a little more stout for bigger fish than a mkIV, like an SU mkIV... If only. This is based on a fight with a couple of scrappy commons to about 10lb. I'm sure another salmon spinner will do the job just as well. How Yates ever landed any of those monsters on light rods I'll never know.

Perhaps my underestimation of power of mkIVs is because I am a new comer to cane and am more used to wielding overpowered carbon? I mean I don't wave broom handles and sea reels about, like a lot of the carbon kings, but I think that might be the reason.
BigFish wrote:What a surprise, I won it and it will fit nicely into my split cane spinning rod collection. Needs restoring a tad but for that price I think my punt paid off.


Pleased you got it, BigFish. I look forward to hearing about it being used!
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Re: Black Seal on eBay.

Post by MaggotDrowner » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:44 pm

JohnL wrote:Hi MD,
The Black Seal label went on a variety of rods made by Mordex, spin, fly, coarse, I have never seen one with a model labelled. The one you have is probably between 1 1/4 lb and 1 1/2 lb test curve - I have two others the same and they are my main "big fish" rods. Remember though the rods were not made in test curves in those days and you also have to take account of the action, in this case parabolic which is what makes them most suitable for tench, carp, barbel etc.

I'd love to know more about action of cane rods. It's an area where my knowledge is fairly lacking.
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Re: Black Seal on eBay.

Post by Santiago » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:47 pm

Thanks MD! I was drawn to those intermediate rings, just hope the cane is good!
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Re: Black Seal on eBay.

Post by MaggotDrowner » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:49 pm

yes, those rings can fetch a bit on their own. I had fears that the winner might just buy the rod, strip the rings and chuck the blank in the bin. But thankfully not. :Thumb:
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Re: Black Seal on eBay.

Post by AshbyCut » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:51 pm

MaggotDrowner wrote:I'd love to know more about action of cane rods. It's an area where my knowledge is fairly lacking.
Maybe a beginning, Sir ...

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Re: Black Seal on eBay.

Post by Olly » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:51 am

MD -- Looking at the above it is very very roughly --- -

Slow bend = all split cane
Medium action = whole cane butt - middle and top split cane
Fast Action = whole cane butt & middle and split cane top joint

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Re: Black Seal on eBay.

Post by GazTheAngler » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:34 am

That 11' black seal looks nice.

Might have to watch that.

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