Traditional Carp Strains
- Olly
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Re: Traditional Carp Strains
I have access to an old strain of carp as it has to my knowledge never been stocked. That said it could have been - donkeys years ago! The carp have never grown big, a 12lber being a monster, and they are a slim build similar to Danubian carp - long and lean.
- Rutland Rod
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Re: Traditional Carp Strains
Chaps I've yet to put a piece on here yet about this fish I caught last Friday, but does it meet the definition of a 'wildie' to you ?
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Re: Traditional Carp Strains
I still think that's a valid question - some of these early "pre-king" commons were pretty deep: Mr Andrew's "record" carp from Cheshunt was stuffed, and you can see it was a deep carp: not at all like our notion of a wildie. Kevin Clifford is right - the golden era Cheshunt carp were not wildies: but what were they? Where were they sourced from, back in 1830 or thereabouts?JohnHayes wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:50 pm Gary Bills from a discussion on cheshunt put very well what I am trying to find out:
“Victorian/Edwardian commons (in cases and photographs); and comparing them to modern kings - usually the marked difference I have described above can be noted... And we still lack the knowledge and terminology for big "Pre-King" carp, such as the initial Cheshunt stock and the Croxby fish...I suspect that these were the product of quite advanced selective breeding well before Thomas Ford, perhaps over 100 years before - but who bred these "Old English Commons"? Cheshunt, I believe, was only built in the 1830s - so who provided the carp? Is there a significant fish breeder/importer still to be discovered?”
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Re: Traditional Carp Strains
Whatever but that is an absolutely splendid Carp - very well done indeed.Rutland Rod wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:44 pm Chaps I've yet to put a piece on here yet about this fish I caught last Friday, but does it meet the definition of a 'wildie' to you ?
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Re: Traditional Carp Strains
I was fishing last month for Wildies at Chiddingstone Castle in Kent.
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Re: Traditional Carp Strains
So that yellow round the lower part of the tail and its "wrist" is found in Wildies, then? I'm afraid I may have offended a few blue-blooded fish by muttering about granny being a koi; my apologies to any such fish reading this!
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