I'm fairly sure these are true crucians...

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Re: I'm fairly sure these are true crucians...

Post by DaceAce » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:37 pm

MD, the first thing to do is a lateral line scale count - if it's below about 31 then likeliest a goldfish as seems the case with this one. It doesn't take long to do, either on the bank or from a decent pic.

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Re: I'm fairly sure these are true crucians...

Post by Dave Burr » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:45 pm

Top picture is definitely an impostor in my humble opinion but the second fish has the right jaw and looks much more like the genuine article. Trouble is its getting harder and harder to find a true crucian and soon, like wildies, we will be chasing shadows and rumours apart from on those special waters that manage to keep the riff raff out.

They are still lovely fish and doubtless more than welcome on a Spring day.

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Re: I'm fairly sure these are true crucians...

Post by Marc » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:52 pm

Lovely fish, the second one looks a lot more crucian than the first. Cracking condition though.
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Re: I'm fairly sure these are true crucians...

Post by Harry » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:27 pm

I think I'm right in saying that the Crucian has been removed from the rod caught records claims listing, as it is increasingly difficult to identify a true crucian... shame...

Here's one I prepared earlier

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they really are a gorgeous fish :Cool:
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Re: I'm fairly sure these are true crucians...

Post by Olly » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:56 pm

Some waters definitely have true crucians - just keeping them true crucians is the difficult bit! Marsh Farm being one example and a couple of pits in Yateley area being my local ones.

A September fish of 3lb12oz being my best from Marsh Farm.

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Re: I'm fairly sure these are true crucians...

Post by Firebird » Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:17 am

I wouldn't know the difference, and does it matter anyway? They look cruciany enough. You should take a sample and see if the biology dept. in your place can do a dna check for you. Any fish people there?

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Re: I'm fairly sure these are true crucians...

Post by Sussex Micky » Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:31 am

Heres another Crucian which I caught last season
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Re: I'm fairly sure these are true crucians...

Post by DaceAce » Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:36 am

The crucian is still on the record list. DNA testing of a single scale can prove authenticity and I hope that we will have a DNA-tested record soon. I have been working on a list of waters with crucians with Chris Turnbull and Peter Rolfe so that a list will eventually be available on Pete's crucian website. Many waters on the list at present.

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