Dons of Edmonton

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Re: Dons of Edmonton

Post by Barbel Lad » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:23 pm

Yeah I remember them shops when me and my father belonged to edmonton & tottenham angling club. When I was young and used to go in dons I was always scared to have a look at a rod because there where so many in there and the isles were so narrow and crammed solid with gear. Times change don't they. Tackle shops now don't seem to have any time for you.

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Re: Dons of Edmonton

Post by Harry H » Thu May 07, 2015 10:22 pm

Interesting statement in this listing sayes that Don used rod blanks from either Bob Southwell or Ted Oliver.Could mean you would get a very good rod at a cheap price(not necessarily this one) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OLIVERS-of-KN ... 1571537965?_
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Re: Dons of Edmonton

Post by Nobby » Fri May 08, 2015 10:48 am

Yes Don's took cane from Southwell, then briefly ex-Southwell employee Mr. Howson and finally from Ted Oliver.

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Re: Dons of Edmonton

Post by Olly » Fri May 08, 2015 11:16 am

It always was a very strange shop to go into - bits hanging from the ceiling everywhere - but a real old fashioned shop with very knowledgeable staff!

The writing was on the wall I thought when they had to have a bouncer on the door vetting customers!

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Re: Dons of Edmonton

Post by Tizer » Fri May 08, 2015 8:49 pm

My mum still lives in Edmonton,When I go back to see her the car door is locked and the windows are shut,Not a nice place anymore :( :(

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Re: Dons of Edmonton

Post by Tizer » Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:22 pm

Proper tackle shops,thought they would be around forever. :Cry:

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Re: Dons of Edmonton

Post by Lea Dweller » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:35 am

Harry H wrote:Interesting statement in this listing sayes that Don used rod blanks from either Bob Southwell or Ted Oliver.Could mean you would get a very good rod at a cheap price(not necessarily this one) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OLIVERS-of-KN ... 1571537965?_

I actually bought the rod in your ebay link, it is a really great example! I was a regular in Don's years ago and was aware that he bought in blanks from both Southwell and Oliver. At £190 it represents great value when compared to the price that named Oliver's and particularly Southwell rods would fetch. It also has the "Don's" connection with my younger days, which also makes it special. I believe the "Oliver's rod" sticker to be a later addition as it is not handwritten as the other script is.

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Re: Dons of Edmonton

Post by Harry H » Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:55 pm

Lea Dweller wrote:
Harry H wrote:Interesting statement in this listing sayes that Don used rod blanks from either Bob Southwell or Ted Oliver.Could mean you would get a very good rod at a cheap price(not necessarily this one) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OLIVERS-of-KN ... 1571537965?_

I actually bought the rod in your ebay link, it is a really great example! I was a regular in Don's years ago and was aware that he bought in blanks from both Southwell and Oliver. At £190 it represents great value when compared to the price that named Oliver's and particularly Southwell rods would fetch. It also has the "Don's" connection with my younger days, which also makes it special. I believe the "Oliver's rod" sticker to be a later addition as it is not handwritten as the other script is.
Lovely looking rod,hope you enjoy using it. :Hat:
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Re: Dons of Edmonton

Post by Nobby » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:09 am

Ted Oliver tells me how he learned his craft from an ex-Southwell employee, Mr.Howson who had started out on his own, but it hadn't worked out and he was due to sail to Australia on the old £10 scheme. The first rods he made were given transfers for the shops that they were built for, Dons being one of them. Afterwards Ted supplied these companies himself, but when they stopped placing orders he started out as Oliver's of Knebworth. During the 'training' period he had been 'commuting' from Knebworth to Croydon in South London each day and afterwards he was schlepping around all the London tackle dealers selling his output.

It follows, I think, that a rod from Dons might be by Bob Southwell, Mr.Howson or Ted, but all will be made to the highest standards of split, not built, cane. It seems Southwell didn't have his legendary 'hot node press' in these days as Ted knew nothing of it, never saw it and pressed heated nodes in a vice as Mr.Howson had taught him to do.

The node press does appear to have existed later though as Clive Young of Youngs of Harrow wrote to Paul Cook that he had bought it, along with a 'cane straightener' when Southwell closed up, the letter being written shortly before Clive passed away.

Southwell had learned his craft from Clive's father, Jim Young who was related, brother in law possibly, to Jim Bruce down the road in Northfields. Jim Young hadn't thought Mark IV rods would catch on and had left his little workshop the original small size...so small he couldn't plane five foot rod sections. Maybe Youngs would have made Richard Walker's famous rod otherwise? As it was Jim Bruce did...and allegedly sold 15,000 of them too! So successful that he asked Bob Southwell to build cane for them exclusively, but Bob declined the offer not wanting to "put all his eggs in one basket", Ted tells me.

Just to complete the circle...Ted had worked part-time alongside Clive under Jim Young too, before his parents moved to the then 'new town' of Knebworth.

Ted, our Ted, that is...I think you are right about the 'Oliver's rods' transfer on your rod...it doesn't look like anything Ted used and Oliver's Rods is the trade name of Peter Johnson, who bought Ted Oliver's business when the former retired. Maybe it was restored by Peter at some time?

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Re: Dons of Edmonton

Post by Lea Dweller » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:40 am

You may well be right about the restoration Nobby, the top section has been "turned" by someone. Apart from that, the Olivers transfer has I believe been added, but the cane is superb, springy and steely. I flexed the rod hard before purchasing and it returns like new so I am happy with my purchase. I am convinced that the writing on the rod is original, as I have seen several of Don's of Edmonton rods before and it is authentic. Who turned the top section I am not sure of, but the transfer was probably added at the same time.
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