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Allcocks Coarse Rods

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This is a list of all the Allcocks coarse fishing rods from most of the Anglers Guides, from around 1934 to 1969. Included are only coarse/bottom rods; not combination, pike, spinning, salmon, fly, or sea rods (where Allcocks make that distinction). It details which Guides they appear in, giving an indication of how long they were manufactured for.

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If those with the 37, 51, 57, 59, 61, 63, 66, 67, 69 Guides (per this list) would like to assist, please fill in the relevant columns and send back to me, or send me a photo/scan of the coarse rods pages, and let me know if there are any rods in those Guides not included in this list.
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Excellent, thanks for posting.

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Yes, a nice piece of work!
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Interesting that the cane version of the Holdwell is only listed as 11' rather than 11 and 12. It may be short lived in the early or late 50s. Always interesting to know the history and origins of our tackle.
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MGs wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:16 am Interesting that the cane version of the Holdwell is only listed as 11' rather than 11 and 12. It may be short lived in the early or late 50s. Always interesting to know the history and origins of our tackle.
Generally I took the description from the first guide it was in and if the range of lengths increased or decreased in subsequent guides it went either unnoticed or unmentioned. Maybe instead of using a Y for yes I should have instead denoted the lengths of rod available that year, however, I did not.

The Holdwell:
1953 - 11'
1955 - 11' & 12'
1956 - 11' & 12'
1962 - 10½' & 12' (fibreglass top section, same catalogue code)
Looks like the 12' length was introduced pretty quickly.
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Rod Fisher wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:13 am
MGs wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:16 am Interesting that the cane version of the Holdwell is only listed as 11' rather than 11 and 12. It may be short lived in the early or late 50s. Always interesting to know the history and origins of our tackle.
Generally I took the description from the first guide it was in and if the range of lengths increased or decreased in subsequent guides it went either unnoticed or unmentioned. Maybe instead of using a Y for yes I should have instead denoted the lengths of rod available that year, however, I did not.

The Holdwell:
1953 - 11'
1955 - 11' & 12'
1956 - 11' & 12'
1962 - 10½' & 12' (fibreglass top section, same catalogue code)
Looks like the 12' length was introduced pretty quickly.
Great, thanks, nice to know.
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Rod Fisher wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 4:16 pm .
I have re-done the spreadsheet based on feedback from MGs, and corrected a few errors along the way. Anyone who had saved a copy of the images will want to replace it with the new ones.

Should you have a copy of the 37, 51, 57, 59, 61, 63, 66, 67, or 69 Guides and wish to support the project please PM me photos/scans of the relevant pages. See this thread for how to photograph catalogues in scan/document mode with your mobile phone.
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Rod Fisher wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 4:16 pm.
Now split into three strands: '30s, post-war, and post-merger (like the Wizards) since the catalogue numbers for the three periods are wholly distinct.
Thanks to Wal for the '59 guide (and supplement) pages.
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Re: Allcocks Coarse Rods

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Now updated with '63, '66, '67, and '69. Thanks Wal.
The only general coarse rods I haven't included are a few of the cheap glass boys rods, crappy kits, and the telescopic Shakespeare rods from '69.

Still looking for help with these guides:

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