The Traditional Fisherman's Forum

Part 2.

..Many thanks again for all the nice comments..and I've taken everything on board with regards to the question of pillars or otherwise.
I agree with you Nobby, that they can put a costly kink in the line and have also been thinking about luckyluca's idea of an optional 'wraparound' band. In fact, I think we have this problem solved now, thanks to your suggestions; -more of that later..

Have been making some progress with the backplate this week. It's still nowhere near complete but here is what's been happening. Fishing on the River Yealm has been completely knocked out for a while,-at least, where I go. Not only did we have the highest floods on record last Friday, which did dreadful damage and made National news, there has also been a big problem with sewage flowing into it! I haven't been there to see it but it's not good news and safe to say that it will be a while before anything like normal service can be resumed..

..But getting back to the backplate; I thought we could utilize the piece of tufnol left over from the Coxon project, for making the centre section element. Also, the side plates are now fully dried and ready for further work.



I sawed off the end part by hand, then started rough-turning the tufnol to thickness, plus 0.050" for finishing. I also put a 3/16" pilot drill through..



..and recessed the back to accept the reinforcing ring and laminate plate..



The reinforcing ring was turned from a piece of bronze; an old scrap bush from a machine, acquired very cheaply..



..and parted off..



The surface finish is deliberately left rough so that the glue will key into it better.



Here you see the ring now glued into place-




Again, I have used Araldite for this. After gluing, a quick blow with an old hairdryer to warm it, does wonders for making the glue flow nicely into and around all the material. I will leave that for at least one day before further machining. In the meantime, the inner-and outer laminate plates were trimmed with a hacksaw and the outsides turned true.






The outer was all ready to be glued into place..



..but then I had a bit of an idea! Whilst looking through the box of wood off-cuts for something suitable to make the back from, I came across these two little scrap strips of real ebony..



...and thought that, as it is a special project, we just might allow ourselves a little excess, decoratively speaking! I've never tried to do anything like this before so it all might go horribly wrong, in which case, we start again. It's an idea inspired by my old BSA tank badges..

Using a very crude, but surprisingly accurate (for this job) method of division, we produced a concave form on the end of each mahogany segment.



The set-up was very basic. A piece of wood with a hole in it held in the vice. The laminate was held by a screw and washer in the hole and division obtained by indexing to the two panel pins tapped into the wood to act as markers. The 'cutter' was a 1 1/4" diameter grinding stone held in the electric drill!

As the rough sawn pieces of ebony were about 1/4" thick, the first thing was to try and cut the thickness in half by sawing down the middle. It wasn't terribly accurate, but good enough for purpose..



The pieces were then further divided by sawing into small lengths and planing flat on one side and drilling a small hole in the middle..



..which were then turned to 1 1/4" diameter by mounting on a simple arbor and clamping with a screw and washer.



These were then cut again into little segments of arc, which will be glued into place on the laminate.



You can probably guess what happens next but will post some pictures of the result next time..

With regards,

wm+

What can :thumb: I :hat: say.

Blimey!

I'm still amazed that you can glue a few bits of wood together will Araldite and then something so pretty ( bloke pretty, that is) can emerge.


I didn't quite get the BSA tank badge analogy though, thinking about three rifles ....but perhaps I should be thinking Empire Star?

http://www.free-images.org.uk/motorcycl ... e-star.htm

I think I know what he's up to now!! Wow.

I can't wait to see this next part come together. As Nobby wrties it's really going to look 'bloke pretty!'

Looking like the first project in the early stages you go and throw that into the mix!! Brilliant :thumb:

WOW!

Nothing else, just wow!

I feel so inadequate now!

Part 3. Finishing the backplate.

Have managed to crack on with the backplate this week, to the point where we can now kick that into touch and start thinking about the line drum.. ..Here is what's been happening:-

The small segments of ebony were planed flat on one side only and then six of them were glued into alternate positions on the laminate.



The observant amongst you-which is all of you-will notice the thick, dark line between two of the mahogany pieces in the next picture. This is a faux-pas on my part and far from intentional. Last Saturday week, I was all ready to glue the ebony pieces in place, when I thought it would be a good plan to thoroughly dry out the laminate circle before glueing. Good idea! Unfortunately, the execution of it wasn't. The sun was shining so I placed the laminate on a piece of greaseproof paper and left it in a sunny spot for a few minutes, whilst mixing the glue. Of course the inevitable happened..the sunny side, being hotter then the shaded underneath part, dried quicker than the latter, thus causing it to warp and split and me to say "bother dash!" -or similar. I flattened it by water spraying the top and putting in a press until dry, but the crack will have to stay. I think we can save it by locating the crack under one of the brass arms of the star back; it's been glued again, so it should be OK.
Put this down to a 'Homer Simpson' moment...there'll be a few more I don't doubt!

Anyway, after the first six pieces were dry, I trimmed off the surplus ends of ebony and glued the second six segments into place. It was necessary to put all manner of weights and heavy objects onto everything, to hold it into place whilst the glue dried.

Nobby; -You were very close with your guess about the BSA 'Empire Star' tank badges..they were in fact 'Gold Star' badges! This pair are early 1960s vintage, still brand new and have never been fitted to a bike!



The next thing was to mount the laminate on a simple arbor and turn the outside to be a snug fit in the centre section recess.



This was then glued into place and when dried out, roughly turned true and flat.
Next, I reversed the centre section in the chuck jaws and cut a recess for what will be the inside of the back. This is in fact, a double recess,; firstly, to take the brass reinforcing band and secondly, to be a press-fit for the other, inside laminate.



..As you see, quite a lot of swarf coming of here and Boy, doesn't it stink!

However, all was done and the laminate was glued in and securely clamped.



When that was dry, the inside was turned again, to roughly finish the laminate to thickness.



..Then the brass ring was glued in. The centre of the reel back has been bored to accept a small tufnol bush, also now fixed in, but not yet bored to size.



Now the inside can be finished! Firstly, the brass ring was finish-turned to final diameter, the laminate has been recessed and faced off to final size and the tufnol bush finish-bored. It is vital that these three operations were done together, without removing the work from the chuck, in order to guarantee absolute concentricity.



Then, the backplate was reversed and the back face and outside, both finished to size and shape. This action shot shows just how tufnol dust flies..!



I thought it best to put on a coat of polish, to stop any damp getting in to the wood.. ..it's not by any means finished yet but even one coat certainly makes all the difference!
This is the inside but there'll be a lot of holes etc. to go into it yet..



..and this is the outside. The final finish will be a bit darker than this..




Next time, we'll make a start on the line drum..I have in fact, already bought a piece of top-grade, certificated aircraft grade, duralumin alloy for the job and started some preliminary calculations.. ..but that's for next time!

With regards,

wm+

It's looking beautiful already wm+. :hat:

Mark wrote:It's looking beautiful already wm+. :hat:

Agreed. A joy to watch develop. Bravo sir. :thumb: