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- Harry H
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Picked this one up today
It has two butts sections allowing you to fish with a 10ft or 12ft float rod or if the tip is short it could be 11ft/13ft ish. It's whole cane with a built cane spliced into the tip, the butt and tip rings look original and the cane looks like it's painted/varnished black with that cracking finish the way old varnish goes (can't think it left the factory like that)
Here's hoping someone can shed some light on it.
It has two butts sections allowing you to fish with a 10ft or 12ft float rod or if the tip is short it could be 11ft/13ft ish. It's whole cane with a built cane spliced into the tip, the butt and tip rings look original and the cane looks like it's painted/varnished black with that cracking finish the way old varnish goes (can't think it left the factory like that)
Here's hoping someone can shed some light on it.
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Ask Nobby to check his catalogues !
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Looks like the metalwork on the butt is inscribed with Milwards. If so, could be good quality and looks pretty early
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I would assume by looking at it that it is a very early circa ww1 combination rod. The tip seems to have a spliced in split cane section, I wonder if that is original or a later modification? Looks very nice, I like it
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Harry, it is a combination rod and possibly has a 12inch longer tip section missing. My only Millwards book is from 1939 and the combination rod then had greenheart splices in the tips so yours is probably a later version.
There is probably some very nice cane under that paint. I stripped one a couple of years back and it was wonderful glowing cane underneath. I think the black paint was just a fashion thing used by a few makers at the time, not everyone's cup of tea but they do look nice with gold whippings..
Just by coincidence, I have recently started on a similar rod from J Peek and son. Not sure how old it is but it has wrapped cork handles so probably a bit earlier. It makes up into 13ft-9in, 12ft-9in, 11ft-6in or a 10ft-6in. some pics below. I may do a post on it when its finished as it is has the makings of a nice rod and a little bit out of the ordinary.
Wal.
There is probably some very nice cane under that paint. I stripped one a couple of years back and it was wonderful glowing cane underneath. I think the black paint was just a fashion thing used by a few makers at the time, not everyone's cup of tea but they do look nice with gold whippings..
Just by coincidence, I have recently started on a similar rod from J Peek and son. Not sure how old it is but it has wrapped cork handles so probably a bit earlier. It makes up into 13ft-9in, 12ft-9in, 11ft-6in or a 10ft-6in. some pics below. I may do a post on it when its finished as it is has the makings of a nice rod and a little bit out of the ordinary.
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- Harry H
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Thanks for the feedback chaps
Haven't been able to resist a little bit of investigating.
Wal yours looks very similar indeed, it would appear I have a piece missing.
Took a bit of the paint/varnish off and the cane looks like the colour where you have removed the whippings. There is something about that splitcane tip that doesn't look right but I'm sure once the paint comes of I should be able to see a bit more, looks like the original colour for the whippings was a bright red. Any suggestions for removing the paint, paint stripper or scrape?
Might get to do a bit more Saturday looking at the weather but the sea is calling so heading of to Walton on the Naze pier tomorrow for a spot of sea fishing.
Haven't been able to resist a little bit of investigating.
Wal yours looks very similar indeed, it would appear I have a piece missing.
Took a bit of the paint/varnish off and the cane looks like the colour where you have removed the whippings. There is something about that splitcane tip that doesn't look right but I'm sure once the paint comes of I should be able to see a bit more, looks like the original colour for the whippings was a bright red. Any suggestions for removing the paint, paint stripper or scrape?
Might get to do a bit more Saturday looking at the weather but the sea is calling so heading of to Walton on the Naze pier tomorrow for a spot of sea fishing.
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Currently trying to mend a couple of splits in the cane when I noticed a name on the butt its called
The Broxbourne.
Anyone have any information on it?
The Broxbourne.
Anyone have any information on it?
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Not much ... but I did find that one was listed at a Moore Allen auction in 2011. They listed it as "A Milwards Broxbourne."Harry H wrote:Anyone have any information on it?
http://mooreallen.bidmaster.co.uk/bidca ... LotRef=358
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The creased reel band and all brass furniture, together with the thick tapered ferrule tenons and dyed cane all make me think of pre-War, but I've never seen a pre-War Milwards catalogue...I bet they existed though. I guess a recent restoration would explain the high Bells Life rings.
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Thanks for the linkAshbyCut wrote:Not much ... but I did find that one was listed at a Moore Allen auction in 2011. They listed it as "A Milwards Broxbourne."Harry H wrote:Anyone have any information on it?
http://mooreallen.bidmaster.co.uk/bidca ... LotRef=358
It does say it is a four piece so I now know there's not a piece missing.
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