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Ferruleless cane rod.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:04 pm
by Fredline
Re: Ferruleless cane rod.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:46 pm
by Duckett
Lovely looking rod. Home made would you say?
Re: Ferruleless cane rod.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:54 pm
by MGs
I think if memory serves, there is a description in the book by Lawton Moss about building a rod of this construction, for the home builder
Re: Ferruleless cane rod.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:09 pm
by Fredline
It does have a lot of home made qualities about it.
Re: Ferruleless cane rod.
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:56 am
by Lea Dweller
Fredline wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:09 pm
It does have a lot of home made qualities about it.
I am absolutely certain that it was not made by my father!
Re: Ferruleless cane rod.
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:22 am
by Wallys-Cast
The centre section of your rod is almost certainly broken as it should be the same length as the butt section. The male part of the joint would be slightly tapered and unvarnished to give a smooth but close fitting joint similar to the one on the tip joint.
These joints are the same as those used in cane Roach poles and I think makers such as Sowerbutts would be the same people originally making these rods.
I have two which were very kindly donated to to me by Bob Brookes, one is a three section and 12ft long, made by W H Norris of Leamington Spa and the other is 13ft long and three sections, made by Ashcrofts of Wigan. Both makers of fine roach poles.
I have also seen a two piece 12ft by W A Allcock with the same ferruleless construction. It was a really light, fast action rod and if anybody has one they wish to sell I would be very interested.
They are generally constructed from Spanish reed or bored out whole cane with built cane tips but there was one for sale on ebay with a spliced in hollow glass tip which looked totally original so the ferruleless joint must have still been in use.
Wal.
Re: Ferruleless cane rod.
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:39 am
by Keston
That's a very interesting ferruless rod .
I have a 5 piece ferruless pole but it is very rough and does seem home made.
Re: Ferruleless cane rod.
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:48 pm
by Match Aerial
I made quite a few bamboo ferrule rods at one time ,they were quite popular. Not difficult to do once you get used to the set up .
Interesting as this is an older rod.
Re: Ferruleless cane rod.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:30 pm
by Fredline
Wallys-Cast wrote: ↑Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:22 am
The centre section of your rod is almost certainly broken as it should be the same length as the butt section. The male part of the joint would be slightly tapered and unvarnished to give a smooth but close fitting joint similar to the one on the tip joint.
These joints are the same as those used in cane Roach poles and I think makers such as Sowerbutts would be the same people originally making these rods.
I have two which were very kindly donated to to me by Bob Brookes, one is a three section and 12ft long, made by W H Norris of Leamington Spa and the other is 13ft long and three sections, made by Ashcrofts of Wigan. Both makers of fine roach poles.
I have also seen a two piece 12ft by W A Allcock with the same ferruleless construction. It was a really light, fast action rod and if anybody has one they wish to sell I would be very interested.
They are generally constructed from Spanish reed or bored out whole cane with built cane tips but there was one for sale on ebay with a spliced in hollow glass tip which looked totally original so the ferruleless joint must have still been in use.
Wal.
Having checked it out closer Wal, you are probably right.It would have originally been 14' and as you say the middle section was broken. It has been shortened until it produced a snug fit.
Re: Ferruleless cane rod.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:50 pm
by Bob Brookes
Wal,
Just one point on your post. I never saw a roach pole ever used in the Leamington Spa area and in all my time spent in Knocker Norris's workshop I never saw one being made or repaired.
See you Wednesday!
