‘Europa’ Fixed Spool Reels - any clues?
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‘Europa’ Fixed Spool Reels - any clues?
Had a pint with Rob at lunchtime in the Jolly Brew and he showed me his ‘Alcock’s 1968 Anglers Guide’.
On page 183 is Rob’s first ‘proper’ reel - the ‘Europa’ - which I have never heard of before. Can anyone shed any light? I did wonder if they might have been a Japanese import?
On page 183 is Rob’s first ‘proper’ reel - the ‘Europa’ - which I have never heard of before. Can anyone shed any light? I did wonder if they might have been a Japanese import?
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Re: ‘Europa’ Fixed Spool Reels - any clues?
Please excuse me, but it says on the advert that they are imported, knowing where most reels came from in the 60's and 70's, I think you can be fairly sure they came from Japan. That being a logical thought on my part, as I have never actually seen one of these, but they do look quite nice.
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Re: ‘Europa’ Fixed Spool Reels - any clues?
They look like the Winfield Bait fisher and Spin fisher which are In the possession of the Fat Bloke. They are good reels and users to this day.
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I find it interesting that the description’imported’ or foreign made’ is used almost apologetically in the 60’s. When did ‘made in Japan’ became a positive selling point?
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As seen here:
I'm suspecting Hong Kong on this one?
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Re: ‘Europa’ Fixed Spool Reels - any clues?
They are either these http://www.shakespearman.freepage.cz/no ... nka-19820/
or these http://www.shakespearman.freepage.cz/no ... nka-19819/
The first matches the model numbers 20xx but the second are much the same and were actually called "Europa" but the model numbers are 22xx.
Noris Shakespeare reels which were made by the "Diamond" brand of Japanese reels. They sold under their own angicised brand name, "Diamond" (though there is certainly a Japanese factory name not stated) and several others including Noris Shakespeare, Edgar Sealey, Compac etc,. They were never sold under the Winfield brand. Generally very good and well thought of reels; solid, well built, modern (for the time) designs and good value for money.
or these http://www.shakespearman.freepage.cz/no ... nka-19819/
The first matches the model numbers 20xx but the second are much the same and were actually called "Europa" but the model numbers are 22xx.
Noris Shakespeare reels which were made by the "Diamond" brand of Japanese reels. They sold under their own angicised brand name, "Diamond" (though there is certainly a Japanese factory name not stated) and several others including Noris Shakespeare, Edgar Sealey, Compac etc,. They were never sold under the Winfield brand. Generally very good and well thought of reels; solid, well built, modern (for the time) designs and good value for money.
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Re: ‘Europa’ Fixed Spool Reels - any clues?
A good question. Most Japanese reels that were marked were marked "Foreign" up to circa late 1960s then Japan started appearing. The exact date would vary from maker to maker I think. Not apoligetically really, "Japan" was seen as a negative selling point back then, one which may have a negative effect on sales in their key market of USA especially. The fact that many were being rebadged in the West would have had a bearing on that as well. Not the only tactic they employed: early Daiwa spincast reels for example were branded as "Viking" hoping that some of Abu's hard earned mojo might rub off on them.
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In answer to the original question, the previous page in the 1968 catalogue describes the Europa de Luxe reel as being sourced in Japan. The accent is still on ‘second to none within their price range!’
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Re: ‘Europa’ Fixed Spool Reels - any clues?
I've had a few reels with a 'FOREIGN' sticker on the foot.When peeled off it would say Japan and very occasionally Korea.Merry Christmas to all.
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So it is! In all the hubbub of Christmas, I hadn’t checked page 181!
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