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Help with the Wallis cast

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:25 pm
by Paul-H
Hi Guys

Although I have used a pin for the last 40 odd years I have never used anything other than the pull line from the rings method of casting and its now about time I learned the wallis cast.

The trouble is everytime I do a search for a Tutorial I get a different way of doing it.

Can anyone point me in the direction a tutorial to do it the correct way.

Thanks

Paul

Re: Help with the Wallis cast

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:30 pm
by Bumble
Yep contact wallis master on here
Bumble

Re: Help with the Wallis cast

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:42 pm
by Paul-H
I am in North Kent

Paul

Re: Help with the Wallis cast

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:54 pm
by Hermit
There's some guided demonstrations on 'You Tube' if you just type in 'Wallis Cast' - some good ones at that. I noticed all were filmed on a windless day...

Re: Help with the Wallis cast

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:35 pm
by Paul-H
Thanks for the replies guys

I have seen the videos on Youtube but the trouble is everyone shows a different variation and most are not clear enough to see what is actually going on.

Other than the one that describes it as a tai chi movement that actually looked quite easy to follow. although it is described as a modified Wallis, how modified is it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJHyQJIwP4w

Paul

Re: Help with the Wallis cast

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:42 pm
by Vole
Looks OK to me, except that he uses all his fingers as a guide for the "live" loop of running line, whereas most over here use the thumb as a pulley, and may - or not - close a finger against it to prevent it escaping.
Also, we tend to start with the tackle held, above one of the shots, in a light "cigarette" grip.
Lastly, as a safeguard against breaking too late, twist the rod-hand wrist as the cast slows, so the reel is handles-down; any excess line will then spill off onto the ground, rather than round the reel, and be much easier to sort out. While there's nothing like a tangle to focus the mind on braking gently as the float starts to drop, too many real stinkers can spoil the fun. Very quickly.

Re: Help with the Wallis cast

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:19 pm
by Dave Burr
Paul - If you've been doing it for 40 years and are happy with your results, why change? There are many variations on a theme and how you cast is how you cast, trying to alter your technique may give you an extra yard or two but its just as likely to reduce your distance and accuracy. If distance is important do what I do, use a fixed spool :Happy:

Re: Help with the Wallis cast

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:21 pm
by Paul-H
Dave Burr wrote:Paul - If you've been doing it for 40 years and are happy with your results, why change? There are many variations on a theme and how you cast is how you cast, trying to alter your technique may give you an extra yard or two but its just as likely to reduce your distance and accuracy. If distance is important do what I do, use a fixed spool :Happy:
Thanks for the reply and to be honest that exactly what I have been doing for the last 40 years, I was just wondering if I was missing out on something not being able to Wallis cast.

I suppose it might well be a case of not being able to teach an old dog new tricks etc.

Paul

Re: Help with the Wallis cast

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:06 pm
by St.John
There's a lot of stigma surrounding the wallis cast that is totally unfounded. I think a big trick is not to be afraid of it. If you can spey cast, drive a car, or do any number of activities involving a pattern of procedures that take a wee bit of practice you will be able to do the wallis. The most useful advice I ever received was to slow and stop the line before the end tackle hits the water and to 'TWAT IT SON!'. Serious.

Re: Help with the Wallis cast

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:29 pm
by Bumble
St John pure class still laughing now reminds me so much of a conversation between me and JT on the Kennet
Bumble