3D Printing and the Traditional Angler

[Rod Fisher]

Thanks Rod - I may have to buy a better digital calliper!

I'm sure if you have digital calipers they will measure to two decimal places. It's worth measuring the spool width at several places as it's often not entirely consistent.

These arbours are 2.5mm thick and intended to combat line kink rather than to increase rate of retrieve. They need to be slightly flexible to clip on.

I did consider giving the dimensions in metric but as the reel was built using imperial dimensions I stuck with that. As an engineer I worked in both systems but in the Aircraft industry we worked in tenths and hundreds of an inch.

The measurement across the two flats of the hexagon measured with a micrometer is is 0.315/0.314 so 8mm is a better measurement to the nearest 1/10 mm.

Thanks Phil. Measure twice, print once etc. I think these should fit.

Rod, the replacement part Garry supplies is a complete unit and needs a little bit of skill to fit correctly. I think yours would be more popular because it would be easier to fit and without the need for tools.

Wal.

Fair enough, I just don't want to step on any toes.

[Olly]

Afraid - only one! Hence the requirement for a new - but not at too expensive prices!

I have already found discrepancies in the spools 2 x 3.5 and 3 x 4.0. I have used cork in the past - the Sea Aerials come with their own Allcocks cork arbour.

I have a couple of Speedia ones already - 1 x narrow & 1 x wide drum versions.

[Rod Fisher]

Afraid - only one! Hence the requirement for a new - but not at too expensive prices!

I have already found discrepancies in the spools 2 x 3.5 and 3 x 4.0. I have used cork in the past - the Sea Aerials come with their own Allcocks cork arbour.

I have a couple of Speedia ones already - 1 x narrow & 1 x wide drum versions.

Cork has the advantage that it's more compressible, and therefore more forgiving if you cut it a bit oversized. Plastic needs to be more tightly dimensioned.



This is my new Match Aerial arbour. It has a small notch cut out for the handle rivets, and a full complement of pillar clips. The adjacent sections overlap, both clipping on to the same line pillar to prevent buckling seams.



Mine is a Fred Crouch. Are the dimensions of the Allcocks Match Aerial (diameter, pillar height and pillar diameter) the same?

[Olly]

I have the Fred Crouch Match Aerial - but a wide drum. Smooth back plate - some I believe are rippled.

Mine is 114.3 mm/4.5in wide with a drum width of 27.9/27.8mm wide.

I understand that there are several different versions made by Fred.

[Rod Fisher]

I have the Fred Crouch Match Aerial - but a wide drum. Smooth back plate - some I believe are rippled.

Mine is 114.3 mm/4.5in wide with a drum width of 27.9/27.8mm wide.

I understand that there are several different versions made by Fred.

Olly that 4.5in measurement is surely the diameter of the aluminium faceplate, not from pillar to opposite pillar.

Are your pillars 19.75mm from one to the next? (The internal measurement O<-->O)

[Wallys-Cast]

Just measured my Allcocks Match Aerial. The outer diameter of the line pillars is 95.4mm the pillars are 3.97mm in diameter and the drum front and rear plates are 13.82 apart.

Hope this helps Rod.

wal.

[Rod Fisher]

Just measured my Allcocks Match Aerial. The outer diameter of the line pillars is 95.4mm the pillars are 3.97mm in diameter and the drum front and rear plates are 13.82 apart.

Hope this helps Rod.

wal.

Thanks Wal. My Fred Crouch plates are about 14.15mm apart so a small but significant difference.
How did you measure the outer diameter? Do you have calipers with extra long jaws?

[Wallys-Cast]

Hi Rod. I measured the outer sizes of the riveted over pillar. The riveted area is the same size as the pillar itself so should be near enough.
The hexagon inside the anti reverse switch is 7.9 mm accross the flats so 8mm would be good fit and just enough to allow some adhesive to squeeze out when fitting.
If you would like an old broken lever shaft with the hexagon top, let me know.

Wal.

[Olly]

As I said before the equivalent for the Fred C. Wide drum.4.5in, is a width of 27.9/27.8mm. With the line pillars being 4.7mm in diameter.

So a completely different reel although the number on the reverse may be 365091. The Allcock made reel being 365019.

[Rod Fisher]

Hi Rod. I measured the outer sizes of the riveted over pillar. The riveted area is the same size as the pillar itself so should be near enough.
The hexagon inside the anti reverse switch is 7.9 mm accross the flats so 8mm would be good fit and just enough to allow some adhesive to squeeze out when fitting.
If you would like an old broken lever shaft with the hexagon top, let me know.

Wal.

Thanks Wal. I'll just print a couple with slightly different cavities and see which fits Phil's reel best, but thanks for the offer.

As I said before the equivalent for the Fred C. Wide drum.4.5in, is a width of 27.9/27.8mm. With the line pillars being 4.7mm in diameter.

So a completely different reel although the number on the reverse may be 365091. The Allcock made reel being 365019.

Those line pillars sound pretty thick Olly. I thought the 4mm ones on mine were chunky.

I have revisited the check knob design and given it the slightly domed shaped of the original. This provides a little more material over the hexagonal cavity.



I've reprinted it in a tougher plastic and they look great to me.