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Kev D wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:05 pm From an angling encycopaedia published in 1960 by Colin Willock.
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Blimey, secondary source but contemporary. If accurate at 1960, that would take us back a few years! Thanks for sharing.

Duckett wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:32 pm

Kev D wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:05 pm From an angling encycopaedia published in 1960 by Colin Willock.
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Blimey, secondary source but contemporary. If accurate at 1960, that would take us back a few years! Thanks for sharing.

From the Anglers' Encyclopaedia ,Odhams Press

Kev D wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:01 pm

Duckett wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:32 pm

Kev D wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:05 pm From an angling encycopaedia published in 1960 by Colin Willock.
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Blimey, secondary source but contemporary. If accurate at 1960, that would take us back a few years! Thanks for sharing.

From the Anglers' Encyclopaedia ,Odhams Press
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That fixes it. Sometime before the first print run. So, May 1960 at the very latest.

I'll have a look through my Pete Stone books later... I may have been thinking about the quiver tip.

If you notice it states that the Swing tip is whipped to the end of the rod rather than being screwed in.

The quiver tip was derived I think from a 'donkey top'. A section of solid glass spliced into the hollow glass top joint of a fibreglass rod.

There was also a 'spring tip' which was screwed into the tip ring, so later than the swingtip.

I made all three in the mid 60's from all sorts of materials. For the swing tip, knitting needles, cane, peacock quill, in fact almost any straight material about 9 - 14 inches long! I did make a swing tip with a wire link attached on the top which was capable of having split shot attached to give a variable weight that I still have. Spring tip made from net curtain track. Even made a primitive swinger - a copy of the Allcock's 'Instantell'.

The donkey tops are in Allcock's 1967 guide described as Top Joint Blanks.

I have an Allcocks Billy Lane Quiver-Tip Match Combination rod which I bought new in 1967/68. the quiver-tip was supplied for ledgering and was basically a short length of nylon whipped onto a shorter top section with a small tip ring. It was claimed to be Billy Lane's version of the swing-tip.

I used this quiver-tip many times in the late 60s but never really got on with it. I am tempted to give it another go after all these years to see if my technique has improved - well you never know!!

Dave Burr wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:40 am I'll have a look through my Pete Stone books later... I may have been thinking about the quiver tip.

Yes,l recall him writing about experimenting with fine fibreglass tips for shy-biting roach . He didn't go into detail and l assumed( possibly wrongly) they were quiver tips. They kept breaking and he ran out of fibre glass

I had to do exactly that to my Avon/Quiver after getting it caught up a tree on the river Mole. Funny enough, bought the rod from the man himself in his shop in Bridewell Alley, Norwich!

Swing tips do actually work!

I caught my first fish on the newly built swing tip today - a lively little roach