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Mick wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:43 pm Lovely job Jeremy! This is one that you won't be selling!!!

Watch this space....

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BoltonBullfinch wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:24 pm A object of true beauty Jeremy, just make sure you fish with it and do not sell it just yet. But once you do decide to sell it, don't forget me please.

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I thought you'd already got one?

Jeremy Croxall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:27 pm

BoltonBullfinch wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:24 pm A object of true beauty Jeremy, just make sure you fish with it and do not sell it just yet. But once you do decide to sell it, don't forget me please.

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I thought you'd already got one?

I have Jeremy, but like chocolate hob nobs, is one enough??

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Silfield wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:10 pm I see what you mean about the colour Jeremy, absolutely lovely. I hope you get to fish with it soon.
Being a fairly recent convert to cane, I have yet to see a Chapmans 500 or 550 in the flesh let alone fish with one but feel that may have to be addressed in 2021 (I missed a local one on that auction site a few months ago and have not been able to find another suitable doer-upper since).
I have an Edgar Sealey Strikerite that I would imagine would be similar in action and it has become a firm favourite of mine, although it would be good to compare them side by side.

Yes indeed, I would be interested in the comparison too.

I have an Allcocks Harvey Torbett, same configuration as the 500 but a much steeper taper. Starts noticeably thicker and ends with a finer tip.

Anyone have both the 500 and a Strikerite and could enlighten us?

[quote="Jeremy Croxall" post_id=445431 time=1608716411

Yes indeed, I would be interested in the comparison too.

I have an Allcocks Harvey Torbett, same configuration as the 500 but a much steeper taper. Starts noticeably thicker and ends with a finer tip.

Anyone have both the 500 and a Strikerite and could enlighten us?
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On the subject of comparisons, with the 500's, have you noticed any variance in rod action on the examples that you have owned and fished with?

Silfield wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:25 pm [quote="Jeremy Croxall" post_id=445431 time=1608716411

Yes indeed, I would be interested in the comparison too.

I have an Allcocks Harvey Torbett, same configuration as the 500 but a much steeper taper. Starts noticeably thicker and ends with a finer tip.

Anyone have both the 500 and a Strikerite and could enlighten us?

On the subject of comparisons, with the 500's, have you noticed any variance in rod action on the examples that you have owned and fished with?
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Interesting comment; I have owned three 500's but not owned more than one at any time so I've not compared them side by side as it were.

I have owned an early gold label 500 before but it had been refurbished at least three times, in fact I did it twice!

This latest 500 does seem to be quite steely in action, although I'm relying on my memory of how the other two compared.

I would imagine that any make/style of cane rod will vary from rod to rod simply because they're made from cane?

Older rods, like most of those we use, have had a life and if you were to compare a lightly used rod to a more frequently used rod there may well be a difference in action despite it being the same basic article.

This is just conjecture on my part, I'm happy to be shot down in flames as I'm no authority on this particular subject.

It would be very interesting to know what others think?

Nice work! Definitely a keeper

Silfield wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:25 pm [quote="Jeremy Croxall" post_id=445431 time=1608716411

Yes indeed, I would be interested in the comparison too.

I have an Allcocks Harvey Torbett, same configuration as the 500 but a much steeper taper. Starts noticeably thicker and ends with a finer tip.

Anyone have both the 500 and a Strikerite and could enlighten us?

On the subject of comparisons, with the 500's, have you noticed any variance in rod action on the examples that you have owned and fished with?
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Hello Silfield
I have just acquired another 500, standard spec, obviously original in all respects and requiring work.
Remembering your comments regarding variance in rod action I compared the recently acquired 500 with my other 500 and there is a distinct difference in the action between the two. On closer inspection the tip section of the rod I've just received is finer giving a softer action.
I will measure the two and post my findings later.
The difference in my opinion looks to be greater than a batch variation or manufacturing tolerance.
I have to speak to John Chapman this coming week and will ask him if any spec changes to the blanks were made during the lifecycle of the product.

Jeremy Croxall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:57 am
Hello Silfield
I have just acquired another 500, standard spec, obviously original in all respects and requiring work.
Remembering your comments regarding variance in rod action I compared the recently acquired 500 with my other 500 and there is a distinct difference in the action between the two. On closer inspection the tip section of the rod I've just received is finer giving a softer action.
I will measure the two and post my findings later.
The difference in my opinion looks to be greater than a batch variation or manufacturing tolerance.
I have to speak to John Chapman this coming week and will ask him if any spec changes to the blanks were made during the lifecycle of the product.

Thank you Jeremy, it would be interesting to see your findings and John's take on it.
To make 2 identical rods, let alone hundreds, must be nigh on impossible I would have thought although I have no experience of making a rod from cane.