Traditional carp fishing

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Shaun Harrison
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I feel extremely honoured to be included alongside those mentioned. Thank you Gurn :Hat:

It is difficult for me to comment how I would like to on here as it would be very much biting the hand that feeds me, but I really find it difficult these days to associate with a lot of the new generation people who decide to fish for carp. I reserve the word angling and angler quite a lot.

What I do know is that there would be very few of them who would tolerate the hard work and blanks we endured when I started fishing for carp before the hair and bolt rigs. We had inadequate clothing, uncomfortable seating and still awaiting the 50" umbrella being made available to the angling world (not to mention the 60" the ovals and the marquees seen on the banks in more recent years). Myself I enjoy the modern comfort and warmth and wouldn't want to go back to 'living under a 45" brolly' which was necessary if you lived where I did and had to travel a long way if you wanted to fish for larger fish. Quick afternoon or day sessions were often a little impractical and I always preferred to be in my pitch and cast out ready for dawn (nice girl is Dawn) rather than getting out of bed at silly o'clock and arriving at my swim disturbing it at dawn.

For a few years whilst working at the shop and being constantly asked by the customers what I fished for I proudly stuck my chest out and said carp. By the mid-80's however my answer was that I fish for most species, I no longer felt the connection with the people turning up at the lakes to fish for carp as I had those who were there in the 70's and very early 80's. No longer had the newbies got that 'strange look in the eye'. Most carp anglers around our way pre hair and bolt rig days were different sorts of character completely. You could spot a carp angler in a crowd if that makes any sense. These days you can walk around a supermarket and it seems every 12th bloke fishes for carp. Everyone I meet these days outside of fishing who ask me my profession knows someone who fishes for carp.

It is a crowded world out there but as in the Traditional Anglers and the Modern Anglers there are some very special people I would happily spend a lot of time with but also an awful lot I would be finding my excuses to move on.

As has been mentioned a few times I too feel the days of the off the shelf magazine are getting shorter in life. There will always be niche specialist markets but the answers to the 'how to's' can now all be so easily Googled.

Didn't know I was going to write all of that, I was only going to thank Gurn but as usual got a tad carried away. Please don't label a type of angler and stick them in one box though. I went to a carp meeting last night and there were a handful of carp anglers in there who would have mixed in and been accepted amongst any group of hardened angler. There weren't many though and strangely enough they all ended up in an area of the room together and soon the conversation was back to our early days. I love it!

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Looking back through my (sketchy) records from the 70s at Hainault and the other east london ponds- I realise that I have caught more carp from my last three 2013 sessions (9) locally than more than 4 seasons worth then. And at a similar size.

The past always looks rosy- but i dont think I enjoyed it any less then!

On a more grounded level- looking back at my old photos- you can still see litter and rubish on the banks- unfortunately some things dont change

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I've recently found a sentence, which sums up my attitude to fishing very well, I wish I had read this a few years ago . . .

" The simpler your approach the more intimately you're involved; uncluttered by a barrow load of equipment, untroubled by the passage of time, hopefully undisturbed and often unambitious, you rediscover the art of improvisation that you mastered as a child"

. . . its confirmation that things were more enjoyable when I had basic tackle, made my own floats and lead weights, walked or cycled to the river and wasn't allowed to stay out all night !

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SofaSurfer wrote:I've recently found a sentence, which sums up my attitude to fishing very well, I wish I had read this a few years ago . . .

" The simpler your approach the more intimately you're involved; uncluttered by a barrow load of equipment, untroubled by the passage of time, hopefully undisturbed and often unambitious, you rediscover the art of improvisation that you mastered as a child"

. . . its confirmation that things were more enjoyable when I had basic tackle, made my own floats and lead weights, walked or cycled to the river and wasn't allowed to stay out all night !

100% agree :) although somethings never change.......i'm still not allowed to stay out all night !!
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SofaSurfer wrote:I've recently found a sentence, which sums up my attitude to fishing very well, I wish I had read this a few years ago . . .

" The simpler your approach the more intimately you're involved; uncluttered by a barrow load of equipment, untroubled by the passage of time, hopefully undisturbed and often unambitious, you rediscover the art of improvisation that you mastered as a child"

. . . its confirmation that things were more enjoyable when I had basic tackle, made my own floats and lead weights, walked or cycled to the river and wasn't allowed to stay out all night !
Very true for me too.
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SofaSurfer wrote:I've recently found a sentence, which sums up my attitude to fishing very well, I wish I had read this a few years ago . . .

" The simpler your approach the more intimately you're involved; uncluttered by a barrow load of equipment, untroubled by the passage of time, hopefully undisturbed and often unambitious, you rediscover the art of improvisation that you mastered as a child"

. . . its confirmation that things were more enjoyable when I had basic tackle, made my own floats and lead weights, walked or cycled to the river and wasn't allowed to stay out all night !
Sums it up for me too... :Thumb:
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Me toooooo.....Mr Yates at his best.........................

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Looking back to my youth, I was an avid reader of fishing magazines. I would dream all day about one day catching a record fish and ultimately leading me into a career in fishing. Not that you have to catch a record fish for that to happen but as my idol Chris Yates had done it, then that's what I wanted to do/happen.

Nowadays,

I wouldn't waste my money. Reading of big fish captures and how all and sundry are embarking upon the waters where those fish have been caught just sickens me and if that's fishing then I don't want to be called a fisherman. It seems to me that people are rapidly forgetting what fishing is all about. For me it's the un-knowing, the anticipation and the beauty of the countryside and making new friends, just like on wednesday last week at evesbatch.

For me (and Mark isn't paying me to say this) this forum would knock the socks off of any Angling magazine. And the beauty of fishing new places, not knowing what fish they hold or what you're going to catch next, is the ultimate prize in fishing.

I'm sorry if this offends anybody who writes for such magazines but that's just the way I feel.

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Site suggestion:

Just read through this thread and it occurred to me that there is quite possibly good grounds to have a "members articles" section, as you would find on Fishing Magic, BFW and the likes of.

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What a good idea!

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