The Traditional Fisherman's Forum

Barbellina wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:35 am Of course...A grass carp. Did it go mental when you tried to net it, they usually do

Pallenpool wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:20 am When I was learning I found the most difficult aspect was the the pull on line in relation to distance - I kept using the Mr Porter method which is the ‘traditional’ method of the wallis where you hold the weight - once I had dispensed with this I found the whole process became a lot easier in fact very similar to the video with the chap fishing for steelheads.

Mole-Patrol wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:55 pm The problem with the swing or pendulum casts are that the rod isn't perpendicular and in line with the weight and the target so the weight might go too far left or right if you release the reel early or late. The Wallis cast prevents this as all the elements are in a line. Simply removing the risk of the reel over running at the end of the cast by using a reel with a tension adjuster will give you more confidence more quickly. You can even cast heavier weights straight off the reel like when bait casting with a multiplier.

Mole-Patrol wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:47 pm In the early 20th century when the Hardy Bros were involved in the casting competitions somebody worked out that doing the pendulum cast often lost them straight line distance as the lead rarely travelled exactly in the right direction. So they came up with what was termed the overhead cast. For this the reel was mounted two-thirds of the way down the handle, turned sideways so the handles were uppermost when the rod rings were pointing downwards and the line came off the top of the reel. The rod was cast like a modern day beachcaster - straight overhead.

I'll bet that there was a collective sigh of relief when FWK publicised his version

If you are confident enough to slow the reel then you have passed the critical phase when everything comes together. At first there are too many things to do at exactly the right time for uncoordinated people like me. Too many people give up simply because of the complexity. Taking some of the risks out and then slowly building on success is the way to go.

Mole-Patrol wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:28 pm It is just the same as casting with a multiplier or bait casting reel. If you start with a simple pendulum cast and the reel friction brake set so as it allows the weight to drop a few inches if the rod tip is waggled you can easily achieve a gentle lob. Then gradually increase the speed of the forward movement.

I usually cast a swimfeeder or the large lures I use for catfish straight off the reel, but with two movements, not the three he used. It is similar to how you cast a fly in allowing the momentum of the back cast to load the rod so that it propels the weight forward more efficiently.

A Speedia is ideal once you have mastered the spool braking aspect as the spool itself weight little and so starts much quicker than a reel with a heavier spool.