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Unknown gamble ... an A E Rudge from circa 1950

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:42 pm
by AshbyCut
OK ... so I've either lost the plot altogether, and I'm prepared to be shot down in flames ... or, there's something I can do with this rod. Either way ... I think it will make a nice little project.

I have just pressed the 'buy it now' button on this curious little rod ... partly because I feel sorry for it ... partly because it's only 15 miles away ... and partly because I like various aspects of it, like the spigotted joints and the strangely "Allcockian" look to it.

It's a 3 piece rod comprised of a whole cane butt, a spliced whole cane centre, and a whole cane spliced to split cane tip. I didn't even ask the length, but I'm guessing about 10ft. 6in. to 11ft.

It has been 're-built' with new guides ... but seemingly by someone who has looked at split cane rods and not whole cane ... as it seems that none of the nodes have been whipped over, apart from the splicing.

It has also had the cork on the handle painted in gloss green !!!!!! (the gods of the angle forgive them).

The name of A E Rudge is impressed into the butt cap ... but on the rod itself there is only the hand-written name and address of a gentleman who lived at an address in Birmingham in 1950 ... not far from Villa Park ... and now a junior school, apparently.

Oh well ... whatever it's like it will give me something to do when the gout is at it's worst ! ;-)

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Re: Unknown gamble ... an A E Rudge from circa 1950

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:24 pm
by Loop Erimder
I nearly went for that myself hope if turns out well for you Mal

Re: Unknown gamble ... an A E Rudge from circa 1950

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:00 am
by The Sweetcorn Kid
Yes, I looked at that, looks a decent enough little rod, green handle aside of course. I just had the feeling that after stripping the green off the cork would crumble, I sincerely hope not though, sir.

Re: Unknown gamble ... an A E Rudge from circa 1950

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:43 am
by GazTheAngler
saw that one too, good luck with it Mal

Re: Unknown gamble ... an A E Rudge from circa 1950

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:32 am
by Kingfisher
Mal,

Not that I'm ever right but that looks to be an AE Rudge "The Champion" and should be 11 foot in length. I feel positive of it.

Re: Unknown gamble ... an A E Rudge from circa 1950

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:59 pm
by AshbyCut
Just back from collecting the rod ... and I'm sorry Kingfisher, Sir ... it's not an 11ft. "The Champion" (good try though !!!)

I had been questioning in my head the fact that the photos showed a brass handle collar, but alloy reel rings and butt cap. However ... I can now confirm that the rod is 12 feet in length ... and there's a rod of identical length with identical furniture make up on the inthenetuk.com website in the A. E. Rudge and Son page (3rd rod down) :-

http://www.inthenetuk.com/pages/Vintage ... _Rudge.asp

The rod is die straight, and the cane and split cane are in very good condition. Apart from the handle, it just needs a couple of ferrules regluing.

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One of the reel rings has had the date scratched into it ... the sort of thing I might have done as a lad ... so I'd like to imagine that the rod was once a young boy's prized possession :-

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Now ... as to that handle !!! Why would anyone do that ??? I think I now know why.

The vendor had suggested that he thought the top of the handle had been whipped over before painting, but I thought I could see the pattern of tape and a sign of plastic showing through a small scratch in the paint. I admit i was wrong ... in a way. It had been whipped ... not with silk or thread, but with fishing line of maybe 8lb breaking strain ! :-

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The handle turns out to be a thin sheet cork ... rather like the Allcock's Isis ... and I now believe the work was done to cover up a small hole in the sheet :-

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It's of a size that I am sure will cover nicely with Pitpaste to make it a good, usable rod ... and I hope that the rest of the handle cleans up so nicely.

Re: Unknown gamble ... an A E Rudge from circa 1950

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:24 pm
by AshbyCut
A quiet afternoons gentle work and the handle is stripped and ready for a bit of Pitpaste (when I get it ordered !) :-

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Re: Unknown gamble ... an A E Rudge from circa 1950

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:49 pm
by Bob Brookes
Mal,
That looks mighty fine to me sir, well done.
Bob

Re: Unknown gamble ... an A E Rudge from circa 1950

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:54 pm
by AshbyCut
Bob Brookes wrote:That looks mighty fine to me sir
Thankyou Bob, Sir.

Re: Unknown gamble ... an A E Rudge from circa 1950

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:40 pm
by The Sweetcorn Kid
Yes it does, good work my friend.