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Hello Everyone

I picked up this Milwards Searanger 9'6" Hexacane sea rod from Wells Reclimation yard in Somerset for £10 today. The whipping seems a bit suspect, it doesn't seem to be original, but saying that the tip ring whipping does seem original and is black. Has anyone got one or know of the original wrapping colour. I have done the usual trawl though the net and I did find one in red and orange.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you









Unfortunately I didn't have quite enough money to by this!

A Russian T34 World War 2 tank... a snip at £80.000

Most of the Millwards rods I have seen are in two-colour jasper twist.

Troutbeck

Swythyn Troutbeck wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:42 pm Most of the Millwards rods I have seen are in two-colour jasper twist.

Troutbeck

Thank you Troutbeck. I will look into that.

I have a few Milwards and those of your rods era I would say most likely Black/White Jasper followed by Red/Black Jasper. You could try a pm to someone with a Milwards catalogue.

Thank you for your help Harry

I am in the process of restoring a Milwards stream fly rod that has a similar style of furniture to yours. The whipping was solid black throughout apart from the tip ring that was wound with fine copper wire. As far as i could tell the whippings were original prior to there removal due to rusty rings.

Silfield wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:09 am I am in the process of restoring a Milwards stream fly rod that has a similar style of furniture to yours. The whipping was solid black throughout apart from the tip ring that was wound with fine copper wire. As far as i could tell the whippings were original prior to there removal due to rusty rings.

Thank you Silfield that's interesting. I was probably going to stick with black once I've sourced a Butt ring and a intermediate ring

Tonytoned wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:16 am

Silfield wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:09 am I am in the process of restoring a Milwards stream fly rod that has a similar style of furniture to yours. The whipping was solid black throughout apart from the tip ring that was wound with fine copper wire. As far as i could tell the whippings were original prior to there removal due to rusty rings.

Thank you Silfield that's interesting. I was probably going to stick with black once I've sourced a Butt ring and a intermediate ring

Might be able to help you with the intermediate ring ,what size?

If it is of any help, Col.H.G.V.Milward finished a good many of his rods with 'Jasper' thread, either plain or more usually, edged with scarlet.
Unfortunately, most of them have now been 'refurbished' with a variety of thread colours!
Yours may well have been black although the ring tyings pictured are certainly not original.

The two rods of his that I have seen and can guarantee that they are absolutely original have their rings and ferrules attractively tied with Gold (yellow) & black 'Jasper' thread and edged with narrow bands of scarlet. There were no intermediate tyings.

Best wishes for your project. I have always rated Milwards rods as consistently good, if a little heavy..

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Harry H wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:30 am

Tonytoned wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:16 am

Silfield wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:09 am I am in the process of restoring a Milwards stream fly rod that has a similar style of furniture to yours. The whipping was solid black throughout apart from the tip ring that was wound with fine copper wire. As far as i could tell the whippings were original prior to there removal due to rusty rings.

Thank you Silfield that's interesting. I was probably going to stick with black once I've sourced a Butt ring and a intermediate ring

Might be able to help you with the intermediate ring ,what size?

About 20 - 24mm (3/4 - 1 inch) approx - inside diameter. The eye of the ring had broken off so it is a rough measurement. It's the first ring after the butt ring on the tip section.