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Chapman 650
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:32 pm
by Olly
On that auction website there is allegedly a Chapman 650!
Here is the sellers reply when I questioned:- ""They never made a 650!!!
Sellers reply:- ""Wrong. Was made as a s/u version of the 550 to special order.""
Any more details please??
Re: Chapman 650
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:09 pm
by Keston
If its the rod I am thinking of then someone posted about it on a FB group earlier today and the rod was thought to be a wrong un .
Re: Chapman 650
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:14 pm
by Olly
That's the one - seems to have been 'very amended' from others anglers opinions!
I just wondered IF - big if - it could be genuine?
Re: Chapman 650
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:49 pm
by Greentura
Called John but went to answerphone, I'll try again tomorrow. My assessment from the pictures is it's had the mid section shortened to match the tip which probably lost a couple of inches, the handle has been lengthened to make it back up to 10' overall by about 12 1/2' shives of a different grade to the original, a non Chapmans style alloy boss and button have been added, all guiles have been repositioned and intermediate whippings added along with a B James style butt guide for a late Mk4 Avon and B James style hook keeper ring. the tip guide is a later one also not used by Chapmans, I bought a load of those on 'that auction site' a few years ago. lastly the first '5' of the '550' has clearly been doctored to look like a '6'. that handle with the button and boss looks to be about 34" counting the shives, making the other two section 3' 9" roughly. Wrong, Just wrong and if that had been custom built the handle would be the same all along it's length.
Re: Chapman 650
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:48 am
by Lea Dweller
Greentura wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:49 pm
Called John but went to answerphone, I'll try again tomorrow. My assessment from the pictures is it's had the mid section shortened to match the tip which probably lost a couple of inches, the handle has been lengthened to make it back up to 10' overall by about 12 1/2' shives of a different grade to the original, a non Chapmans style alloy boss and button have been added, all guiles have been repositioned and intermediate whippings added along with a B James style butt guide for a late Mk4 Avon and B James style hook keeper ring. the tip guide is a later one also not used by Chapmans, I bought a load of those on 'that auction site' a few years ago. lastly the first '5' of the '550' has clearly been doctored to look like a '6'. that handle with the button and boss looks to be about 34" counting the shives, making the other two section 3' 9" roughly. Wrong, Just wrong and if that had been custom built the handle would be the same all along it's length.
So all in all a good buy!
Re: Chapman 650
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:30 pm
by Gilbert
Greentura wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:49 pm
Called John but went to answerphone, I'll try again tomorrow. My assessment from the pictures is it's had the mid section shortened to match the tip which probably lost a couple of inches, the handle has been lengthened to make it back up to 10' overall by about 12 1/2' shives of a different grade to the original, a non Chapmans style alloy boss and button have been added, all guiles have been repositioned and intermediate whippings added along with a B James style butt guide for a late Mk4 Avon and B James style hook keeper ring. the tip guide is a later one also not used by Chapmans, I bought a load of those on 'that auction site' a few years ago. lastly the first '5' of the '550' has clearly been doctored to look like a '6'. that handle with the button and boss looks to be about 34" counting the shives, making the other two section 3' 9" roughly. Wrong, Just wrong and if that had been custom built the handle would be the same all along it's length.
AFAIK nobody has asked the length . it may be 10ft 6".... with a longer handle and standard top 2 sections
Re: Chapman 650
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:47 pm
by RBTraditional
I have a 10’ 6”, believed to be a chapmans built rod three piece detachable butt and restored by Dr Cane himself. I’ve landed some very good carp and pike on it over the years. It’s certainly not a Dennis Pye broomstick, it has a lively and lovely through action….
Re: Chapman 650
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:29 pm
by Greentura
The seller stated 10’ as the length.
Re: Chapman 650
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:17 pm
by Olly
So as far as we can tell at this moment - - - - a fake!
Re: Chapman 650
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:18 pm
by Jeremy Croxall
Olly wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:17 pm
So as far as we can tell at this moment - - - - a fake!
I would agree Olly