Wildies?

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Hiya folks,

This morning in search of a little peace and quiet I decided I would fish an old village pond, somewhere I haven't fished since my early teens. It's a lovely little place and I have many fond memories of my first carp captures from their. There used to be a finicky little group of tench in there too, I never caught one larger than a pound but they were beautiful - sadly I think they have perished over the years. Aswell as the tench, the pond is home to a number of carp, both commons and pretty little mirrors.

Being a village pond it even has a few goldfish which I guess have been released there over the years, I like to think from the village fayres of years past. My largest carp from there was around six pounds, and I regard it as a true wildie; but sadly I didn't take a picture as this was many moons ago. But today I was delighted to have a few wild(?) carp to the two pound mark grace my net. I am by no means a traditional fisherman (tradisherman lol?) but I must say it was a lovely way to spend the morning, gazing at an active float - it certainly beats the motionless bobbins that I have become accustomed to watching these days. :Confused:

But I digress, what do ya reckon... Wildies, or not?

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I can't understand how pretty little mirrors such as this one got in there though http://imgur.com/ug8iIBm, it makes me doubt the 'wild carp strain' and think perhaps they're just feral carp? They sure look wild enough though...

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What a lovely find. Those little carp will be great fun on light tackle.
I would say they are carp which have been left alone for enough time to have become feral and show reversion to a wild state, so essentially 'wildies'.
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Wild or not, they're nice fish and I'm sure they provide a very pleasurable way to spend an afternoon using light tackle. I understand they don't grow as large a "king?" carp. How big do "wildies" get?
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MaggotDrowner wrote:Wild or not, they're nice fish and I'm sure they provide a very pleasurable way to spend an afternoon using light tackle. I understand they don't grow as large a "king?" carp. How big do "wildies" get?
A double figure wildie would be a big fish but maybe a huge one might push 20lb.
True wild carp would be single figures.
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Tradisherman? That's my line!!! :Wink:

Joking aside, keep your little gem of a pond close to your chest, enjoy it and only show it to those close to you. This is the sort of pond I shall teach Jessica to fish. :Hat:
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Short barbels, no apparent notch - some interesting genes, I'd say: they are certainly ferals, I think.

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Feral strains are funny. I guess all the genes are still there it is just that over the generations they re-sort themselves and the stronger 'wild' ones come to the fore.
In a local commercial lake full of regular commons and lots of linears, I caught this little chap who has all the hallmarks of a little feral fish but it is the only one I have caught there.

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FB and Snape, some very interesting information, thanks. There is definitely some genetic influence from non-wild carp, as in my teens I caught a number of goldfish, aswell as some prussian-esque carp, and some nice mirrors aswell - one of which was definitely of 'king carp' strain going on the portly belly and shoulders it had. But the wiry little tench are a mystery, it makes me think perhaps that there are some old strains of carp in there.

Apologies for stealing your line SK, I didn't realise haha :Beg:
But my thoughts were the same, the kind of place I would teach my child to fish, enchanting stuff. :Sun:

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This one went like a bullet ....

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It originally came from a remote moorland pool that was being filled in....there was only three in the pool/lake when it was drained...

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Ferals?, a couple of our club farm ponds provide residence to some delightful specimens - true 'wildies' however, you could probably count the number of English waters on less than one hand.
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